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Gorg
Tue Jun 15 2010, 04:28PM

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As EdT told me to look in here (Thx a lot for this!) for highrated ships of line* - I'm amused &'ll add my personal favorite HMS Sapphire(s) beside the Amethyst Screw Corvette of 24.Sept. 1874**

HMS Sapphire (I) 1651-1670 Fourth rate frigate
was a 38-gun fully rigged ship of the English Royal Navy, originally built for the navy of the Commonwealth of England by Peter Pett I at Ratcliffe, and launched in 1651.

Unlike many of her half-sisters, Sapphire seems to have never had additional guns added to her after completion; indeed by 1666 she carried just 36 in wartime (and 30 in peacetime), with 12 culverins and 10 demi-culverins on the lower deck, and 14 sakers on the upper deck. Sapphire was wrecked on 31 March 1670 when she was deliberately run ashore on Sicily to escape from what her captain, John Pearce, thought were four Algerian corsairs. They weren't, and Pearce and his Lieutenant, Andrew Logan, were shot for cowardice at Deptford on 26 August 1670.

Datasheet:
Length: 100 ft (30.5 m) (keel)
Beam: 28 ft 10 in (8.8 m)
Depth of hold: 11 ft 9 in (3.6 m)
Sail plan: Full rigged ship
Complement: 140 originally, by 1666 had 160 (wartime).
Armament: originally 38, later 36 guns in war (30 only in peacetime)

Our

HMS Sapphire (II) 1675-96 Fifth rate frigate 32 Guns
of the Royal Navy. She was designed and built by Sir Anthony Deane at Harwich in 1675, at a cost of £4,175***.

In 1677 HMS Sapphire was the first command of Cloudesley Shovell, who later became Admiral of the Fleet and eventually died in the Scilly naval disaster of 1707.[1]

HMS Sapphire was cornered in Bay Bulls Harbour by a French squadron in August-September 1696. Her master, Captain Thomas Cleasby, in fear that the French would capture the ship, scuttled her and escaped across land to the colony of Ferryland.

Datasheet:
Length: 105 ft 8 in (32.2 m) (overall) 89 ft (27.1 m) (keel)
Beam: 26 ft 10 in (8.2 m)
Draught: 13 ft 2 in (4.0 m)
Depth of hold: 10 ft (3.05 m)
Sail plan: Full rigged ship
Complement: 135/115/90
Armament:

Under 1677 Establishment: 32/28

* Lower deck: 18 x demi-culverins
* Upper deck: 10 x sakers
* Quarter deck: 4 x minions

Under 1685 Establishment: 28

* 16 x 8pdr sakers
* 10 x minions
* 2 x 3pdrs

shematic sideviews of a larger 5th rate of ~100ft and a small 5th rate of ~80ft are to be found on: http://anglo-dutch-wars.blogspot.com/2004_03_01_anglo-dutch-wars_archive.html

So these both were the very first of the ten Sapphires between 1651 and 1909 that allways played a role in the RN History.

But my final question is:
And where does the progress between 1st and 2nd Sapphire hide?


HTH,
Gorg

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*4th, 5th and 6th Class
A 6th i.m.h.o.- an ugly made modekit (Pictures!!!) is avaible at http://www.amazon.de/Krick-Modelltechnik-Peregrine-HMS-Baukasten/dp/B000UCGOB2/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1276632120&sr=8-2-fkmr0 - BUT WITH in THERE is a Set of Drawings


**I damned all these plans, datasheets, papers&drawings of the hole RN wooden&iron screwsloops & -corvettes just a couple of hours away today
to be archived in aeternam by being unbuildable... but I add a picture to show how nice they have been... btw: Sapphire was the last wooden Cruiser built for the RN - ending an Era.


***I'll ask my bank tomorrow, I think GBP/€ is well for me today .



[ Edited Wed Jun 16 2010, 01:31AM ]

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